A Bonnier Corporation Company. I have also read that relative to others similar to the .270 Win, this cartridge is not too tough on barrel life. I don't keep a round count anymore, so I don't know exactly how many rounds that has been put down it. The difference between a slow and fast barrel will be far greater than 2 inches of barrel. I have a a few .243s with well over 2-3k fired through them. usually the shooter, the load I am assuming you reload. The way the rifle is cleaned plays a big role in barrel life too, correct cleaning will increase barrel life. The .270 Winchester was introduced in 1925 with Winchester’s Model 54 rifle, a Mauser-derived bolt-action (the Model 70 is an improved version, with a better trigger) which was totally on purpose.Even then, the 6mm and 7mm family enjoyed a certain popularity for having a balance of velocity and “oomph,” making them suitable for hunting deer-sized game at longer range than the .30-30. OTOH, I have shot out 2 - 25-06 barrels. Many products featured on this site were editorially chosen. These barrels are showing exceptional clean ability, more velocity, longer barrel life, reduced bolt / breech pressure and extreme accuracy – shooting small groups at short and long ranges. I get questions about this, so here’s a brief guide: It’s impossible to say, flatly, how long a barrel will last. like I said shot and shoots 1 hole groups since then. Total end of life seems to come in a rush. If you are just doing normal hunting/sighting in it would take a TON of rounds to kill the barrel. The numbers below refer to the very best accuracy of which a tube is capable, before it starts to slide even the smallest bit. Sign up for a new account in our community. Even “shot-out” barrels in an infamous barrel burner like the 220 Swift are usually in excellent condition at the cooler muzzle end. He is simply asking if any has ever shot out a .270 barrel. I've shot the 30BR since 2005 and it is one amazing case in terms of barrel life. In my experience if you chase the lands, and when you have to make adjustments of 30 thousands or more at a time, your barrel isn't going to last that long. Couple of barrel life observations. the other was my 22-250 easily 5k through each barrel was on its 3rd barrel when I traded it. I do not think he has shot his out, just trying to gauge when he might expect to start seeing signs of a shot out barrel. The last one, installed by Sam May, Apex Rifle Co. Flagstaff, only got to about 750 rds. The barrel is only an ordinary one to, it's not heavy or anything, so how many rounds could I expect to shoot through it before it wears out and I lose accuracy and need to have it re barreled? AZAV8ER, May 25, 2019 in Rifles, Reloading and Gunsmithing. However, no animal will know the difference. It still shoots good - with some loads the groups open a little, but it is a fairly consistent 1 1/2" rifle. Use good barrels, and the life will be greater. Both have been popular from their inceptions. Could be a ton of things. This will cause the 25-06 to need a new pipe before the 06. Here are some rough estimates from a gunsmith friend of mine who is anguished because I’m not listing the dozen or so qualifying factors that go into how long each of the following will last. Shilen's barrels have probably set more world records than any other barrel made, because so many shooters rely on them. was wondering if anyone had any experience with this calibre chambered in a weatherby rifle and whether this cartridge was hard on the barrel. All rights reserved. Comparing the .270 with the 7mm Remington magnum is like comparing grits and white cornmeal. Grab a bore scope or take it to a gun smith. just doubt the barrel. Think barrel life of a 30-06 vs 25-06, the 25-06 caseneck "concentrates" the burning powder more than the 06 will due to smaller caliber and will create more pressure too. That is one aspect not mentioned in quite a few of the writings that praise this cartridge for many other positive attributes, of which there are many. First comes the loss of gilt edged accuracy, then when the unusable point comes, you suddenly can't keep it on the target at 100 yds. By David E. Petzal and Phil Bourjaily. ... flatly, how long a barrel will last. Is barrel wear and barrel life a serious concern for 99% of readers? Perhaps the design played a role as well. On the Lilja FAQ Page as you’ll find informed answers to many commonly-asked questions. These benchrest-quality barrels are made to impressive tolerances. AZAV8ER, what you are describing is a barrel just getting broken in! How many rounds can you shoot at a time before you have to worry about throat erosion in your rifle bore? By some including the US Army, it's not the rounds down the barrel, it's how much powder that been burned in it. I am not experiencing  a problem just wanting to set parameters. shoots a minute and a half, and it is still an eminently usable rifle. if not more than likely your cause. Hunting, fishing, camping, hiking, shooting, handloading, AZ history. Rifle barrels are usually made from steel alloys called ordnance steel, nickel steel, ... For example, some .270 Win. If so how many rounds did it last? Most .270 barrels use a 1:10” twist-rate, which generally precludes bullets weighing more than 150-grains. We will expand this 5C ® land formation into other calibers and twist options in the future or when used to meet your needs. The answer is no. Copyright © 2020 Field & Stream. i.e. If you have, how many shots did it take to lose 1MOA of accuracy. All match and select match barrels are air gauged on sensitive equipment and stress relieved at the factory. One of the most debated topics in the shooting community today. one of the most accurate guns I have. Also ran a 7.62x39 in 308 bore that would have lasted pretty much forever had I not sold the complete rifle to fund another project. My 1980 .270 Win. when I got the .243 mentioned above it wouldnt shoot under 1.750" buddy suggest I soak the barrel with sweets and brush the crap out of it and repeat a few times. (I have had excellent luck with other bbl manufactures as well, but have settled in on Bartlien barrels… A good motto is "Too hot to hold, too hot to shoot." You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. Normally a barrel being shot out you will start to get rounds that leave the group for no reason. I am thinking this barrel could be done. barrels are rifled with a 1 in 12 inches twist, some .30-06 barrels are also rifled 1 turn in 12 inches, and some .300 Magnum barrels are rifled 1 turn in 14 inches. one of them still shoots one hole groups old ruger varmit m77r. Even after it loses its peak accuracy, a barrel will often remain perfectly usable for a many rounds more. has about 2k rounds through it, most of them hot hunting loads. The .270 Win., shown to the right of a .30-'06 Sprg. What are guys out there finding for barrel life in there 7mm rem mags. The .270 Winchester was released in 1925 chambered in the Model 54 bolt action rifle. Remember that these are very conservative figures. We put 3 popular cartridges to a head-to-head-to-head test Let it cool between shots. I would check everything else out first. Materials and barrel life. Shop for Best Price Best 223 Bulk Ammo Barrel Life And Best 270 Ammo For Blood Trails . with the exception of my .223 bdl varmint. I dont run hot loads through any of them just a tad below max. the others just sit in the safe. I've got one that has enough rounds down the barrel that I'm surprised that it still shoots. If your barrel loses accuracy at the 1500-round mark, then it only worked for three seconds! If you are worried about barrel life, as mentioned earlier … vs. 7mm Rem. Repeating Arms Company (Winchester Inc). Firearms, Long Range Shooting, and Reloading. I have heard the .243 is hard on barrels. More coming with the next rant. A 6 X 284 barrel, with titanium nitride bore treatment, was gone in 1500 rds. SHOPPING 22 250 Rifle Barrel Life And 270 Rifle Barrel For Sale 22 250 Rifle Barrel Life And 270 Rifle Barrel For Sale Reviews : If you're looking for 22 250 Ri Barrel-maker Dan Lilja’s website has an excellent FAQ page that contains a wealth of useful information. How many shots does it take to shoot out a barrel? I have 22 inch 270's and they are just find. Certain target games don’t permit this, which is one reason moderate volume cartridges like … It still shoots good - with some loads the groups open a little, but it is a fairly consistent 1 1/2" rifle. (I have a spare barrel, but don't see any urgent need to install it). It's easy! By I have 3 rifles, all set up for the following load, all run 8 twist Bartlien barrels. For example, Dan’s FAQ addresses the question of barrel life. The first factory load featured a 130 grain bullet at a muzzle velocity which closely approached the factory advertised figure of 3160fps from the 54 rifle's 24" barrel. on a .243 never heard that one either. It is a further development of the Winchester Short Magnum concept utilizing … Both are excellent cartridges. only barrles I ever shot out were a .300 win mag in 40xb ( I bought it used) put maybe 1500-2000 rounds in it. In this article I will discuss what barrel life means to the everyday shooter, and how you will know when your barrel is worn out. Barrel Life, Part I. The core rule to extend barrel life is to not shoot it fast and hot. June 11th, 2016 How Long Will Your Barrel Last? For some shot out is going from .3 MOA to over .7 MOA. I've been using a formula (rule of thumb) that matches pretty well what top ranked competitors get with 22, 24, 26, 28 and 30 caliber barrels. Barrel life is something that's often more emotional than factual. The 6 Best Big-Game Loads for the .308 Winchester, How to Hunt Ducks in a Winter Storm and Live to Tell About It, The Story Behind the World-Record Whitetail Deer, The Agony, and Utter Joy, of One Child’s First Fish, The 10 Best Long-Range Hunting Cartridges, Kansas Teenager Tags World-Record Whitetail Buck, How to Pick the Best All-Purpose Deer Rifle, Pro Fly-Tying Tips to Save Time and Fill Boxes. Dan Lilja Offers Some Guidelines. Erosion from bullet friction alone is minimal as suggested by the longer barrel life of “mild” cartridges like 30-30 Winchester, 22 Hornet, and especially 22 rimfire. cartridge (l.), was created by necking down the .30-'06 case to accept a .277" bullet. all my rifles are p-dog guns and we used to shoot the crap out of them in the 80's and 90's. Fast & Free shipping on many items! They will tell you what it looks like at that time. But at the end of the day, a rifle is made to be enjoyed, so don’t hold back on shooting your rifle over concerns of losing accuracy, but rather enjoy the rifle and monitor barrel life so that you can prepare for a replacement when one is due. This is the reason that the .270 has not been a true long-range choice, in the modern sense of the term; the twist rate won’t stabilize the heavy-for-caliber, high Ballistic Coefficient bullets that long-range shooters want. It depends on what round count do you think your barrel accuracy has degraded too much. I'll also explain what causes barrel wear, and how to prolong the life of your barrel. Joined Mar 1, 2017 Messages 69 Does the perfect muley cartridge really exist? AZAV8ER, what you are describing is a barrel just getting broken in! roughly how many rounds would a barrel last and whether the weatherby magnum cartridge caused significantly more throat errosion than a 270 win or the 270 wsm, also any ways to extend barrel life or minimise erosion. Reproduction in whole or in part without permission is prohibited. Mule Deer Cartridge Showdown: .270 Win. you should probably be more specifc, like what type of rifle, how old, what type of ammo. Regardless, the .308 is a very gentle round when it comes to barrel life and with proper care it will last a long … Apr 17, 2017 #2 E. eklarsen Member. 270 weatherby magnum barrel life? My 1980 .270 Win. I would guess that it would take 3K rounds to kill a .270 as a hunting rifle. Has anyone here ever shot out a 270? By shot out I mean from near MOA/sub MOA to over 1.4 MOA. If you are a paper junkie, as in, just need every gun to look best on ballistic charts, than the 24 inch tube will give a little more velocity theoretically. Trick out or upgrade your firearm with the largest gun parts selection at eBay.com. .243 barrel life is determined by the barrel. Winchester Super Short Magnum, or WSSM is a line of rebated rim bottlenecked centerfire short magnum cartridges introduced by the U.S. (Read how heat eats barrels here.) Field & Stream may receive financial compensation for products purchased through this site. To me it sounds like you need to clean the barrel and check your load. Mag. my guess is you got some copper fowling in that firearm. (I have a spare barrel, but don't see any urgent need to install it). Great deals on 270 Barrel. Most of the time when barrels get shot out it is because of the excess heat from shooting strings of shots in a row. 17 AH was completely gone in 3700 rds, with hot loads. You can have a minute-of-angle .270 that erodes until it only (!) I have a .270 with a 24" stainless barrel with a 1:10 twist rate and I am shooting 110gr bullets through it at 3250fps which is 1 grain below the maximum charge weight. could be a scope loose or just a junk scope, loose action in the stock., the rest your shooting off of etc etc theres a host of things it could be. If barrel life is of a concern to you, use the advice given above on how to increase your barrel’s lifespan. The barrel that's on it now, a Douglas stainless, is showing some erosion in the throat, and is not as accurate as it once was, but still ok for most hunting. Of course, if you are shooting a “long-lived” .308 Win that goes 5000 rounds before losing accuracy, then you get a whopping TEN seconds of barrel life. JMHO vs. .300 Win. on a 270 never heard that before. Mag. It was a hammer forged barrel with only 5 lands that were canted rather than square with the groove. 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